Re: [-empyre-] Territory/workvs.labor

[John Klima <klima@echonyc.com>]

Patrick Lichty wrote:
> 
> BTW, I'm very amused at one thing:
> In the late 90's, there was an almost idyllic sense of comaraderie, but with
> the introduction of recognition (read: fame/fortune), just watch the fur
> fly.

indeed this is unfortunate turn of events, though i must say i noticed
it also back in the late 90's, when i materialized in the public sphere
(previously i was working in complete isolation). not from all quarters
mind you, quite the contrary, but i felt direct hostility from a number
of sources. but you are right, back then there was so much room at the
bottom, there was no point not being comrades. nobody cared a whole lot
about copyright issues either, as you point out, everyone was stealing
stuff from everywhere.

> there has been some talk about the huge investiture of time into works for
> little return.  This makes me think that there is something askew here.
> Methinks that wither the individual should be able to find a less complex
> method of expressing the same concept or understand that they are doing it
> for personal satisfaction, and not feel entitled for the art world to
> support it.
> 
> John, I know that you might snack me for this, but we'll talk about this in
> person, I'm sure. I know where you're coming from.

i wouldn't smack you for that! i think yer right. i don't feel that the
world owes me anything and i do indeed do it all for personal
satisfaction (thats not to say i don't want my silver porsche). liza
napier would smack you, but thats cause she has two little mouths to
feed. the talk such as it is on the subject, is about adequate or fair
compensation, and the problem as i see it, is that the perception of the
general public is that net art doesn't take much time.
 
best,
j